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Anyobservations | #002 | Roman Skaskiw | Simpleassets, simplemarket, koloboks & wax

In this interview we dig into Romans past how he graduated from Stanford and went into the US army as an infantry officer. Why they created simpleassets and what it is evolving into, as well as other projects they are working on.

Did you know that the creators of google were enrolled in the same course as Roman on Stanford? 

Cryptolions projects
https://cryptolions.io/home
https://simpleassets.io/
https://simplemarket.io/
Simpleasset NFT creator on WAX
https://wax.tools.simpleassets.io/

Romans Novels: 

Book 1 - Television: https://www.amazon.com/Television-Roman-Skaskiw-ebook/dp/B01CXPDA9W 

Book 2 - Convoy Home: https://www.amazon.com/Convoy-Home-Iraq-Stories-Book-ebook/dp/B01BLWQYI2/ 

Book 3 - Saddam Hussein and the Dark princes of love https://www.amazon.com/Saddam-Hussein-Dark-Princes-Love-ebook/dp/B01EESQKZC

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welcome to his interview this was an

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exciting episode with Roman we talked

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about simple assets all the other

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projects that Crypt Alliance are working

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on as kolobok simple market jungle test

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night which is the biggest test net on e

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OS how they he came from Bitcoin where

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he got his first Bitcoin he said he's

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got seven or eight Bitcoin for writing

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an article which is kinda exciting if

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you look at the value of Bitcoin today

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but this was in 2012 a long time ago he

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had a chance to respond to some of

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Jonah's comments about simple assets and

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he put his perspective from on this

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situation where he thinks that simple

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assets is doing everything correct and I

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want to point out right here and now I'm

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not saying a or b is better than the

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other I'm allowing both of them to speak

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openly about the situation so this is

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very exciting and on top of that

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roben also dropped a lot of announcement

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on us color box is coming with the new

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edition next week we're seeing

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improvements on simple asset at i/o

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we're seeing improvements on the simple

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market that's coming with the new gpk

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launched and a lot more content like

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this so dig in find out where he started

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on stanford going into the army and

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perhaps one or one or two more

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interesting aspects let's jump in

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welcome roman welcome to this interview

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first let me say that I'm very psyched

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that you're here I know what you have

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done for a few years since you joined

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the Neos IO space I've been watching

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from afar and first let's introduce

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yourself who is Roman and where do you

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come from well thank you for having me

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Anders I love I love your show I love

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your content I love your sort of

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community engagement that's a very

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important job well my name is Roman I'm

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one of the cofounders of crypto Lyons I

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can say so we were one of the EOS

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original gangsters to get

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with the prestigious team from Sweden

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and then several others yeah I think

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adding colors out that and I'll say that

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I'm the junior partner of crypto lions

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it's mostly built around the enthusiasm

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and talent of bok-dong but me as the

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native English speaker the community

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more often interacts with me yeah

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that's good so you're the native speak

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English picker what's your background

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why why are you working with Crypt

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Alliance

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well let's see how about how about I

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tell you my whole crypto story because

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it has a couple of funny moments so way

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way back in 2012 or so in the era of

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still have the t-shirt in the era of the

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Ron Paul revolution yeah I was writing

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for a libertarian blog and the editor

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said do you want to get paid in Bitcoin

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or in dollars and I said oh what's

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Bitcoin looks kind of cool but I don't

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have time for MIT pay me in dollars so

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he paid me 20 bucks yeah and then for

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the next story he said look I don't

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believe in fractional reserve banking

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I've gone full crypto for your second

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story you have to take Bitcoin and for

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me it was a huge inconvenience I needed

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to install some software and figure out

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how it worked and then I received my

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first like seven or eight Bitcoin it's

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good for an article at least in today's

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value yes yes of course I didn't write

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it all the way up I think I sold at a

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hundred bucks and I thought I was very

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smart but uh so that's how I got into

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crypto right around that time book Don

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and I we became friends and we tried to

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build a Bitcoin gaming site following in

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the footsteps of Satoshi dice I'm not

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sure if you remember Satoshi dice and we

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had a lovely concept I still love this

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concept you would bet on which mining

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pool would mine future blocks on the

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Bitcoin blockchain so all the bets would

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go into a pool and like the winners

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would take off like in proportion of the

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of their bets to the other bets so it

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was a very interesting concept but we

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were like a little niche of a niche and

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and we just shut down the project after

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a while Satoshi dice and a few other a

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few others sort of the the first ones

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they they owned the whole market and we

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didn't get very far but we kind of kept

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our finger on the pulse of the crypto

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community crypto Lyons was in fact the

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name of our slack channel that we just

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kind of like gossip about crypto

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and right around EOS is launched prior

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to its launch like it was just sort of

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the stars aligned we're booked on worked

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as head of IT they were bought out by

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Ericsson who had their own health

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speaking of Sweden who had their own IT

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department and I I wasn't happy where I

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was working or I just wanted to move on

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from where I was working as a CTO and

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and I did and we created crypto Lyons

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worked on crypto liens like as hard as I

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worked on anything like that that's what

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happens when you love what you do

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we're joined by our third co-founder

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Sudeep who kind of rounds out the team

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he has like a really broad perspective

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really good at like talking to people

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and figuring out how things work so

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that's that's crypto Lyons that's the

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three of us yeah and and mean that have

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been a part of the ecosystem in

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different ways have seen you everywhere

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you were one of the first u.s. drug

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producers that were transparent with

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your block rewards and everything we had

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a vision that every team should be like

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that every team should disclose where

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they get what funds they get then spread

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it and so far it was pretty much just

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our two teams perhaps one or two more

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that did it for the first while I

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remember some early rating early rating

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of a block producer transparency and

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Sweden New York and crypto Alliance were

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the only three passing grades but it

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turned out that that that wasn't wasn't

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the most important thing in the world

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you know block producers were beholden

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to the voters and and what they want

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that's that's to uh to a significant

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extent that's what we do yeah for sure

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it's a different world now and on that

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ecosystem than it was before so that's

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that's cool like I didn't know that you

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you built a cool game for the actually I

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liked the idea I never knew that there

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existed a game like that where you could

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bet on them on the future the tea in the

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mining pool that found a future block so

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that's pretty cool

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it will be pretty easy to do that on

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ales

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because we know who will mint which one

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in the future yeah it was actually a

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hard technical problem on Bitcoin

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because it isn't obvious which which

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mining pooled mines are blocks so we had

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to like look at different things and

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sort of take the balance of evidence and

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if you I don't know if the Bitcoin talk

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forums are still in existence but if you

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look for betting blocks or else block

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777 we rebranded you can find long

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threads about people playing our game

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that's nice it's it's fun I know that

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you have a at least one game built for

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ASIO as well as yes we sure do thank you

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for asking so we built a game called

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kolobok kolobok is sort of the eastern

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european version of the gingerbread man

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fairytale and it's a simple breed it

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started as a simple breeding game and

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mostly we were it was a demo for simple

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assets so we just wanted to show

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developers the code is open source

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except for the breeding algorithm we

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just wanted to show developers how you

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can integrate simple assets and we added

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an adventuress concept to it where you

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can run away from a rabbit or a wolf or

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a fox and this week so stay tuned to

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Kola bio ko-ko lob okay IO we're

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releasing Kola bug bounties so we will

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pay you in cryptocurrency for the prizes

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that you find if it's the current bounty

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so we're this is like when when we have

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little gaps in time in our availability

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we're gonna do little upgrades to Cola

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Bach so there might be no upgrades for a

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long time if we're busy on other stuff

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but if if we see a little of something

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simple that sort of captures our

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imagination we're gonna grow it and and

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I think after some time there's gonna be

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a whole kolobok universe a lot of games

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within the game it's very fun that you

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have a like a project to showcase simple

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acid as grow and it's like a small lava

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product that will keep growing over the

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time

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yeah that's very nice I will make sure

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to link it below so people can try it

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out and we can share it when it's when

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it's live for real and perhaps we will

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actually go go further into that later

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to talk about the bridge like I guess I

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would say breathing off the color box or

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however you would would use it I know

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that someone someone in the wax

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community made wanna name it Anders and

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ears Dec bought it so they officially

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control me on the color box oh so that's

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nice but your background before crypto

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what did you do then

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uh well I have my life took a pretty

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pretty atypical trajectory as we

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discussed before the show so so no

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kidding there I was at Stanford

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University computer science major height

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of the internet bubble the first

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internet bubble mm I am I am a xenial

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like right in between X and millennial

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so right there my my classmates at

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Stanford are getting like 6 digit 6

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digit salaries like right out of the

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gate because Silicon Valley is just

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starving for talent and what do I do

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I joined the army and and not not any

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kind of technical job either I was an

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infantry officer and I ended up in

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America's paratrooper Division the 80

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seconds and I was in I was in the Army

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for four and a half years and then I got

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out I thought I was finished and then a

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a big hand came out of the sky and

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grabbed me by the scruff of my neck and

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pulled me back into the army for another

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another year and a half so not sure not

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sure I would do it again like it

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definitely and I saw I saw three combat

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tours Iraq and Afghanistan poised to

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Afghanistan again it's kind of like a

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mixed bag like it definitely broadens

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your perspective humbles you in a lot of

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ways I I met some like some of the most

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amazing people that I probably ever meet

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in my life but it was just so it's just

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the whole enterprise was was just so

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wasteful and so pointless and I hate to

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think that I risk my life for something

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that's stupid so like it's not a wash I

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wouldn't say absolutely no but but I

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think I could have done better both for

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myself and and sort of my community if I

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just stayed professional and and gone to

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work after graduating I feel like I

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don't have the military experience but I

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feel like it's it's a strong pursuit for

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personal growth

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doing that that's definitely true yeah

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yeah like I believe in the institution

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but but man where you know that's I

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guess that's part of what drew me to to

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this man Ron Paul after I after I got

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out I found some I found some solace

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that at least some people were talking

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sense yeah yeah it's very interesting

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and that background I never heard about

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it before you mention it so it's very

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interesting to to get to know the people

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that I've seen in all the communities

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all the time and and a little bit more

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about that background let me let me make

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a little personal plug right here if

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anybody wants some additional

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perspective you can go to Amazon and

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search for any one of three short

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novellas by me which I self-published

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sometime ago they sold a little bit when

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I publish them and then I think they're

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they're forgotten now but but they're

0:13:06.660,0:13:10.980
there and I think I'm pretty proud of

0:13:08.580,0:13:13.620
them so if anyone wants a little deeper

0:13:10.980,0:13:16.110
perspective check those out they do have

0:13:13.620,0:13:18.230
a short part what they're what they are

0:13:16.110,0:13:18.230
about

0:13:18.450,0:13:25.140
UH one of them well it's a little

0:13:22.500,0:13:30.420
depressing to talk about one of them is

0:13:25.140,0:13:33.840
is about a young officer as I was it's

0:13:30.420,0:13:37.950
autobiographical going to speak to an

0:13:33.840,0:13:40.890
Iraqi family whose boy was killed by the

0:13:37.950,0:13:42.960
US military and I hate to put such a

0:13:40.890,0:13:44.670
dark cloud over this interview because

0:13:42.960,0:13:46.740
it's really about fun stuff this

0:13:44.670,0:13:48.930
interview but that's that's something I

0:13:46.740,0:13:52.070
had a little bit of experience with not

0:13:48.930,0:13:55.680
a fun job no the next one is about

0:13:52.070,0:13:57.600
convoy just leaving leaving Iraq just

0:13:55.680,0:14:00.480
like all the sights and smells and

0:13:57.600,0:14:03.870
emotions of leaving Iraq and the last

0:14:00.480,0:14:08.490
one is about sort of just a camping trip

0:14:03.870,0:14:13.340
with with veterans and and a few of them

0:14:08.490,0:14:13.340
are going back to to Iraq and one is not

0:14:13.699,0:14:19.939
so the last one the camping trick sounds

0:14:16.399,0:14:22.669
like the most positive one perhaps

0:14:19.939,0:14:24.529
perhaps nobody let's let's shift to

0:14:22.669,0:14:27.049
happier news as I understand you just

0:14:24.529,0:14:30.829
went on a camping trip that was well

0:14:27.049,0:14:34.790
kinda kinda I we have a small well we

0:14:30.829,0:14:36.470
have a 15 acre farm it's a my grandpa

0:14:34.790,0:14:38.239
grew up there if they were

0:14:36.470,0:14:40.639
self-sufficient they had some animals

0:14:38.239,0:14:42.529
they grew food they had their free small

0:14:40.639,0:14:44.179
farms to that place and together they

0:14:42.529,0:14:46.669
they made everything they needed it

0:14:44.179,0:14:49.369
there so and and that's still in the

0:14:46.669,0:14:52.009
family it's like no neighbors it's the

0:14:49.369,0:14:53.959
middle of nowhere in the woods we walk

0:14:52.009,0:14:57.199
15 minutes we're down to a lake where we

0:14:53.959,0:15:00.379
have a we have the right to to fish with

0:14:57.199,0:15:02.600
nets and everything beautiful so we love

0:15:00.379,0:15:06.709
to go there and currently we don't use

0:15:02.600,0:15:09.109
the the fields around our our house so

0:15:06.709,0:15:11.329
so we allow the the farmers nearby to

0:15:09.109,0:15:14.119
have calsters so when we go there

0:15:11.329,0:15:16.429
there's animals to live day it's it's a

0:15:14.119,0:15:18.949
it's a fun fun place to be it's very

0:15:16.429,0:15:21.139
relaxing it's a very nice and and of

0:15:18.949,0:15:27.019
course we have fiber internet in the

0:15:21.139,0:15:30.589
middle of nowhere so so we can work very

0:15:27.019,0:15:32.389
close to ideal yeah it's very good every

0:15:30.589,0:15:35.239
time you leave you feel like oh I should

0:15:32.389,0:15:36.889
live there but then I think that places

0:15:35.239,0:15:39.109
like that you should travel to those

0:15:36.889,0:15:40.579
places and really experience and enjoy

0:15:39.109,0:15:43.279
them because if you live there is your

0:15:40.579,0:15:44.749
everyday life I feel like you you start

0:15:43.279,0:15:47.209
to take things for granted and you won't

0:15:44.749,0:15:49.039
really appreciate the beauty and the

0:15:47.209,0:15:52.970
really like relaxation and everything

0:15:49.039,0:15:54.739
that it involves so yeah so that yeah

0:15:52.970,0:15:56.209
that's a very positive trip I try to go

0:15:54.739,0:15:59.269
there a few times per year and just

0:15:56.209,0:16:01.220
relax and we have like 20 chery chery

0:15:59.269,0:16:02.539
trees so we have a lot of Sherry's to

0:16:01.220,0:16:04.699
eat when we are there at the right time

0:16:02.539,0:16:08.679
and of course they are ready in one or

0:16:04.699,0:16:11.209
two weeks from now but it was fun

0:16:08.679,0:16:13.189
Ukraine's Ukraine's cherry trees are

0:16:11.209,0:16:14.600
already in bloom I think the seasons

0:16:13.189,0:16:17.749
start in the south and then move

0:16:14.600,0:16:19.160
northwards yeah the blooming was before

0:16:17.749,0:16:21.730
but we don't have we're not not blooming

0:16:19.160,0:16:25.039
I mean already right yeah exactly so

0:16:21.730,0:16:27.509
yeah we get it in it could be in just a

0:16:25.039,0:16:30.750
few days it goes pretty fast when it's

0:16:27.509,0:16:32.819
yeah it's beautiful I can I can add a

0:16:30.750,0:16:37.649
picture in the link below to the place

0:16:32.819,0:16:40.139
it's fantastic so Stanford any of your

0:16:37.649,0:16:42.270
friends a quick question did it go well

0:16:40.139,0:16:45.090
for them

0:16:42.270,0:16:46.860
did what go well for them for yeah they

0:16:45.090,0:16:52.140
started with the six figures

0:16:46.860,0:16:54.330
salaries in the yeah Hey look I sat in

0:16:52.140,0:16:59.600
the same in the same lecture halls as

0:16:54.330,0:17:02.700
the founders of Google you know so

0:16:59.600,0:17:04.980
although although I think I knew I knew

0:17:02.700,0:17:09.330
a lady who was like employee number

0:17:04.980,0:17:13.230
eight at Google so so yeah so they did

0:17:09.330,0:17:16.230
well yeah it's not the quarry though so

0:17:13.230,0:17:19.680
it's a trade-off yeah yeah you have

0:17:16.230,0:17:21.900
experience in a different field but

0:17:19.680,0:17:24.120
that's nice okay this is a good question

0:17:21.900,0:17:26.040
Jonah got these questions or perhaps you

0:17:24.120,0:17:30.180
you will have an answer for it or not

0:17:26.040,0:17:32.670
what is your first food memory well I

0:17:30.180,0:17:35.580
had a wonderful childhood I grew up in

0:17:32.670,0:17:38.220
New York and my ex was actually my aunt

0:17:35.580,0:17:39.840
had a country home perhaps somewhat like

0:17:38.220,0:17:43.050
the country home that you describe it

0:17:39.840,0:17:44.880
was a old converted farm with 20 acres

0:17:43.050,0:17:48.300
and a little stream across the street

0:17:44.880,0:17:51.020
and my earliest child memory is roasting

0:17:48.300,0:17:53.550
hot dogs on a stick on an open fire and

0:17:51.020,0:17:55.980
balancing the bun on the hotdog so you

0:17:53.550,0:17:58.200
can toast it a little bit not quite a

0:17:55.980,0:18:00.480
good memory from from what was quite a

0:17:58.200,0:18:04.140
good childhood that sounds awesome to

0:18:00.480,0:18:05.520
have an experience like yeah III can

0:18:04.140,0:18:07.560
really relate cuz I've done the same

0:18:05.520,0:18:11.040
thing we have a nice fireplace set up

0:18:07.560,0:18:12.930
and and yeah it's very nice yeah that's

0:18:11.040,0:18:14.640
a good memory and make it when you think

0:18:12.930,0:18:16.680
about it makes me at me happy as well

0:18:14.640,0:18:19.140
and I wasn't even there so that's a

0:18:16.680,0:18:22.800
positive one and when you're not doing

0:18:19.140,0:18:24.330
your crypto work which is you can't

0:18:22.800,0:18:25.830
leave a lot of time because your guys

0:18:24.330,0:18:27.150
are doing a lot of things but do you

0:18:25.830,0:18:30.300
have any hobbies do you have any

0:18:27.150,0:18:32.720
interests outside of its out of the the

0:18:30.300,0:18:36.230
eoseo and crypto space

0:18:32.720,0:18:39.530
uh well I'm a dad now which I love we

0:18:36.230,0:18:41.780
had our second child a few months ago so

0:18:39.530,0:18:45.080
a lot yeah thank you it's great I I

0:18:41.780,0:18:48.110
recommend it so a lot of time goes into

0:18:45.080,0:18:50.690
a family I gave up Brazilian Jujitsu I

0:18:48.110,0:18:52.850
used to do a lot of submission grappling

0:18:50.690,0:18:55.760
not at a high level but very

0:18:52.850,0:18:58.159
enthusiastically I loved that but now

0:18:55.760,0:19:01.100
now I kind of keep it closer to home and

0:18:58.159,0:19:03.320
I just put time into family I am I am

0:19:01.100,0:19:06.020
kind of hiding although I'll give you a

0:19:03.320,0:19:10.600
big reveal here on your show I am hiding

0:19:06.020,0:19:12.650
an addition an addiction to online chess

0:19:10.600,0:19:14.690
there there are worse

0:19:12.650,0:19:17.570
there are worse addictions certainly but

0:19:14.690,0:19:20.470
that is mine well it wasn't scattered

0:19:17.570,0:19:23.600
team building a chess game for ASIO I

0:19:20.470,0:19:25.460
think oh that would be phenomenal

0:19:23.600,0:19:27.020
I fit I think would be they were talking

0:19:25.460,0:19:28.730
wrap me was talking about it but it was

0:19:27.020,0:19:32.480
a year ago and I haven't really seen so

0:19:28.730,0:19:35.270
perhaps it died I don't know yeah yeah

0:19:32.480,0:19:39.169
so so you're playing a lot of chess yes

0:19:35.270,0:19:41.900
that's nice my for my 30th birthday I

0:19:39.169,0:19:43.640
got a nice nice piece of like a real

0:19:41.900,0:19:45.140
chess board with nice pieces and

0:19:43.640,0:19:48.140
everything they have some weight in them

0:19:45.140,0:19:49.940
yeah it's really nice I have a small kid

0:19:48.140,0:19:52.460
as well or I would have it on my table

0:19:49.940,0:19:54.860
here at all time so I want the chess

0:19:52.460,0:19:56.150
board out there so if someone feel likes

0:19:54.860,0:19:58.490
playing when they're here they should

0:19:56.150,0:20:00.049
play the game oh yeah like you shouldn't

0:19:58.490,0:20:02.940
be hidden away it should be there I

0:20:00.049,0:20:08.190
think it's a nice feature in the house

0:20:02.940,0:20:10.260
so I really enjoy chess as well so okay

0:20:08.190,0:20:13.050
let's dig into what Crypt Alliance have

0:20:10.260,0:20:16.110
done so far I don't know if we should

0:20:13.050,0:20:19.500
start all the way back to when before a

0:20:16.110,0:20:21.720
OS was launched let's start from the

0:20:19.500,0:20:23.400
beginning when did you join the Osiris

0:20:21.720,0:20:29.100
base and what was your experience back

0:20:23.400,0:20:33.060
then it was it was before launch and

0:20:29.100,0:20:35.520
again I'm I'm a junior partner too

0:20:33.060,0:20:38.310
booked on crypt reliance has been mostly

0:20:35.520,0:20:41.700
his enthusiasm and his amazing work and

0:20:38.310,0:20:44.480
he followed in the in the wonderful

0:20:41.700,0:20:47.370
footsteps of your older brother Eric

0:20:44.480,0:20:48.720
after the superhero test net we launched

0:20:47.370,0:20:51.960
the jungle test net

0:20:48.720,0:20:54.330
I think Eric then went on to join the

0:20:51.960,0:20:56.520
Ghostbusters the famous or I should say

0:20:54.330,0:20:59.670
infamous ghostbusters who were

0:20:56.520,0:21:01.500
developing the launch plan and and he

0:20:59.670,0:21:04.560
sort of like steps spent less time

0:21:01.500,0:21:08.250
nurturing the test net so I think jungle

0:21:04.560,0:21:10.740
kind of rose to prominence then largely

0:21:08.250,0:21:13.730
because a lot of a lot of the original

0:21:10.740,0:21:17.700
gangsters joined the jungle community

0:21:13.730,0:21:19.710
Saeed from blocks Igor from Rio dan

0:21:17.700,0:21:22.380
Larimer used to pop in there every now

0:21:19.710,0:21:24.450
and then ask how stuff was going so I

0:21:22.380,0:21:28.410
think that was our that was our claim to

0:21:24.450,0:21:31.650
fame was was the jungle test net our our

0:21:28.410,0:21:34.980
other big projects we have a lot of

0:21:31.650,0:21:39.360
small projects like account creation

0:21:34.980,0:21:42.060
portal for for a OS called Zeos for

0:21:39.360,0:21:43.980
whacks we have so if any new whacks

0:21:42.060,0:21:46.530
users want to automate their claims

0:21:43.980,0:21:50.970
their voter claims for a small fee check

0:21:46.530,0:21:53.400
out wack CWA XY dot IO our next big

0:21:50.970,0:21:55.470
project was simple assets I think we'll

0:21:53.400,0:21:59.310
talk about that more in a moment and

0:21:55.470,0:22:01.050
then we put a ton of time into a project

0:21:59.310,0:22:02.490
that's so controversial we're not

0:22:01.050,0:22:05.430
certain that we should launch it and

0:22:02.490,0:22:09.570
that project is prometheus it's a way to

0:22:05.430,0:22:13.350
store files on chain and we liked the

0:22:09.570,0:22:16.570
name prometheus because like fire it can

0:22:13.350,0:22:19.270
be used for a great good or great evil

0:22:16.570,0:22:23.460
yeah I love the idea of Prometheus but a

0:22:19.270,0:22:26.440
bad guy it comes with a few risks yep

0:22:23.460,0:22:31.450
it's a it's really interesting solution

0:22:26.440,0:22:34.690
though I yeah you put it on jungle and

0:22:31.450,0:22:37.630
you can stream videos and it's it's very

0:22:34.690,0:22:42.640
interesting no history node required

0:22:37.630,0:22:45.100
we've streamed 800 megabyte videos yeah

0:22:42.640,0:22:47.710
off the block boat yeah off the

0:22:45.100,0:22:56.740
blockchain we killed we killed for

0:22:47.710,0:22:58.630
triangle block producers well you can

0:22:56.740,0:23:02.110
stream a video or you can you can have a

0:22:58.630,0:23:03.940
stable Network so yeah but but idea is

0:23:02.110,0:23:07.090
good and it could have some potential

0:23:03.940,0:23:08.740
use cases in the future for sure we're

0:23:07.090,0:23:10.570
gonna have to I think in whacks we're

0:23:08.740,0:23:14.020
gonna have to have some like governance

0:23:10.570,0:23:16.330
calls and and figure figure some stuff

0:23:14.020,0:23:17.590
out some ground rules there's some like

0:23:16.330,0:23:19.940
principles that we ought to be

0:23:17.590,0:23:25.110
articulating

0:23:19.940,0:23:27.930
yeah for sure and and yesterday it

0:23:25.110,0:23:30.180
jungle East in the most used a oz test

0:23:27.930,0:23:34.020
net up to this date and we're up to

0:23:30.180,0:23:35.820
version free now so yeah to to is still

0:23:34.020,0:23:37.920
the active one we haven't put in the

0:23:35.820,0:23:40.020
time to do the transition that's mostly

0:23:37.920,0:23:42.150
a communication job and we've been

0:23:40.020,0:23:45.630
really busy with simple assets in simple

0:23:42.150,0:23:48.870
market and actually this might be a good

0:23:45.630,0:23:51.270
segue into the next topic because you

0:23:48.870,0:23:53.160
know so many people not just us

0:23:51.270,0:23:54.630
we're the curators of the jungle

0:23:53.160,0:23:56.910
community but there are so many great

0:23:54.630,0:23:59.940
teams who just put in so much time and

0:23:56.910,0:24:02.070
effort into jungle we were trying to

0:23:59.940,0:24:04.320
figure out a way to pay them and so far

0:24:02.070,0:24:07.620
we failed like maybe maybe they get some

0:24:04.320,0:24:10.110
votes for their work I hope they do but

0:24:07.620,0:24:12.510
somebody suggested the idea that we take

0:24:10.110,0:24:14.850
the jungle classic test net like the

0:24:12.510,0:24:18.600
first version of jungle and we somehow

0:24:14.850,0:24:21.300
chop it up and turn it into NF T's and

0:24:18.600,0:24:24.360
then sell the pieces of the jungle

0:24:21.300,0:24:26.550
classic test net it's not clear how to

0:24:24.360,0:24:29.310
do that at all but that's the general

0:24:26.550,0:24:32.820
concept and that's when we looked around

0:24:29.310,0:24:36.360
and said hey there's no there's no big n

0:24:32.820,0:24:40.110
ft standard for Yas io why don't we make

0:24:36.360,0:24:42.570
one and that's how how simple assets was

0:24:40.110,0:24:45.690
born it was born out of trying to pay

0:24:42.570,0:24:53.220
jungle block producers and they are

0:24:45.690,0:24:55.440
still not paid today yeah that's a good

0:24:53.220,0:24:57.540
idea so now we're in well now we have

0:24:55.440,0:24:59.640
gotten into simple ices so let's dig

0:24:57.540,0:25:02.340
into that and now we know what brought

0:24:59.640,0:25:06.240
you there what was the reason but I

0:25:02.340,0:25:08.490
think that you had a an additional

0:25:06.240,0:25:10.350
picture from the get-go it wasn't

0:25:08.490,0:25:11.970
yesterday I went to the pace some people

0:25:10.350,0:25:12.840
on jungle you had something something

0:25:11.970,0:25:15.270
else in mind

0:25:12.840,0:25:18.090
I heard pretty early on that it we get

0:25:15.270,0:25:25.320
at the game aspect was what's there

0:25:18.090,0:25:28.080
right yeah yeah I mean NF T's NF T's may

0:25:25.320,0:25:31.290
very well be the killer app of block

0:25:28.080,0:25:33.679
trade you know like if anything has

0:25:31.290,0:25:37.440
pulled in sort of non blockchain

0:25:33.679,0:25:41.220
it's n FPS which we saw last month or

0:25:37.440,0:25:44.429
two months ago in May when Garbage Pail

0:25:41.220,0:25:45.990
Kids was launched by pops so a NF T's

0:25:44.429,0:25:49.440
may be it that may be the thing that

0:25:45.990,0:25:52.470
we've all been waiting for so we we took

0:25:49.440,0:25:54.690
the establishment of this standard like

0:25:52.470,0:25:55.889
very seriously because we're building

0:25:54.690,0:25:59.750
when you are building something

0:25:55.889,0:26:02.760
something very important our our

0:25:59.750,0:26:07.370
philosophy started with the idea that

0:26:02.760,0:26:09.929
that ownership is like absolutely pure

0:26:07.370,0:26:12.269
100% if you own something it's like

0:26:09.929,0:26:14.279
outside of the control of everybody else

0:26:12.269,0:26:17.090
outside of control of even the person

0:26:14.279,0:26:17.090
that made the NFT

0:26:17.920,0:26:23.860
we we spent like two crazy months like

0:26:21.370,0:26:25.720
building everything the first version of

0:26:23.860,0:26:27.340
simple assets that together with the

0:26:25.720,0:26:29.680
first version of simple market together

0:26:27.340,0:26:32.590
with the with Cola box like all three

0:26:29.680,0:26:35.140
things came out we we put a lot of

0:26:32.590,0:26:37.750
thought into into separating the

0:26:35.140,0:26:39.370
protocol from the marketplace because we

0:26:37.750,0:26:41.020
want it to sort of be on an equal

0:26:39.370,0:26:42.910
playing field with any potential

0:26:41.020,0:26:45.220
competing market places like we didn't

0:26:42.910,0:26:48.310
want to privilege our own which is kind

0:26:45.220,0:26:49.900
of a kind of like a you know we we want

0:26:48.310,0:26:51.430
to make like simple market is our

0:26:49.900,0:26:53.980
business plan that's what pays for the

0:26:51.430,0:26:55.660
development but at the same time if if

0:26:53.980,0:26:58.210
you're building an ecosystem you need to

0:26:55.660,0:27:00.760
invite competition and we have given

0:26:58.210,0:27:02.680
even like little technical support so

0:27:00.760,0:27:04.630
the competing simple asset marketplaces

0:27:02.680,0:27:06.670
and will continue to do so because we're

0:27:04.630,0:27:08.920
that's different upholding the protocol

0:27:06.670,0:27:11.710
and upholding the marketplace but anyway

0:27:08.920,0:27:16.060
after those like two crazy months of

0:27:11.710,0:27:17.890
work like we announced beta and within a

0:27:16.060,0:27:20.860
few days it might have been just two

0:27:17.890,0:27:23.440
days different D Goods and makes a huge

0:27:20.860,0:27:25.630
announcement of their plan to launch or

0:27:23.440,0:27:27.040
mythical games makes their announcement

0:27:25.630,0:27:29.650
that they're launching d goods and

0:27:27.040,0:27:32.350
they're they're like a huge company with

0:27:29.650,0:27:34.630
huge investment they've done amazing

0:27:32.350,0:27:38.590
things in the gaming space those guys

0:27:34.630,0:27:41.350
were involved with Call of Duty Blizzard

0:27:38.590,0:27:44.610
veterans were in there and we're like ah

0:27:41.350,0:27:47.140
man that's well maybe they'll do it

0:27:44.610,0:27:50.560
maybe they'll do it and we we actually

0:27:47.140,0:27:52.360
did have a call with them and our idea

0:27:50.560,0:27:54.250
was maybe we could just sell them simple

0:27:52.360,0:27:56.830
assets we could say look all the work is

0:27:54.250,0:27:58.660
done like here it is just just take it

0:27:56.830,0:28:01.780
you know you could maybe maybe pay us a

0:27:58.660,0:28:04.060
little bit you know for upkeep but it

0:28:01.780,0:28:07.480
was clear they had they had their vision

0:28:04.060,0:28:09.130
and their direction and we we thought we

0:28:07.480,0:28:10.840
were doing it correctly we still think

0:28:09.130,0:28:13.720
we're doing it correctly we're very

0:28:10.840,0:28:16.570
proud of the decision that we made so we

0:28:13.720,0:28:18.850
we went our separate ways

0:28:16.570,0:28:22.090
d goods is gonna it's going to be

0:28:18.850,0:28:24.730
something they're gonna launch Blancos

0:28:22.090,0:28:28.870
that might be a big high budget game

0:28:24.730,0:28:31.300
using D goods but a simple assets man

0:28:28.870,0:28:35.770
it's definitely got traction

0:28:31.300,0:28:38.320
yeah it has and and yeah digas will be

0:28:35.770,0:28:40.420
interesting when when blanka's launched

0:28:38.320,0:28:46.030
that game is very interesting but wait I

0:28:40.420,0:28:47.470
can and I guess like they're gonna do

0:28:46.030,0:28:50.350
great things and I'm glad they're here

0:28:47.470,0:28:52.210
but the the reason it was clear that we

0:28:50.350,0:28:54.610
couldn't join was they seem to have a

0:28:52.210,0:28:58.930
different sort of philosophical take on

0:28:54.610,0:29:02.680
it so as I understand D Goods asset have

0:28:58.930,0:29:04.840
a transferable flag so the game can turn

0:29:02.680,0:29:06.820
it on and off they could like pause your

0:29:04.840,0:29:11.650
ability to transfer an asset and then

0:29:06.820,0:29:15.100
unpause it also a huge difference d

0:29:11.650,0:29:17.700
Goods is a is a standard for contracts

0:29:15.100,0:29:20.560
that every author deploys themselves

0:29:17.700,0:29:22.750
whereas simple assets is like the eoseo

0:29:20.560,0:29:25.330
token contract it's just one thing and

0:29:22.750,0:29:29.890
everybody calls it to manage their

0:29:25.330,0:29:32.230
assets so I think that being just one

0:29:29.890,0:29:34.420
contract just gives users a lot more

0:29:32.230,0:29:36.850
certainty in their ownership they don't

0:29:34.420,0:29:39.640
have to go and see if like you know this

0:29:36.850,0:29:41.290
deploy this author's deployment has some

0:29:39.640,0:29:43.090
modification that might interfere with

0:29:41.290,0:29:45.190
my ownership yeah that's not a good

0:29:43.090,0:29:49.869
input

0:29:45.190,0:29:51.759
yeah yeah so yeah that's from my

0:29:49.869,0:29:53.710
perspective it makes total sense to have

0:29:51.759,0:29:55.840
one contractor call I want the contract

0:29:53.710,0:29:59.320
to update with things that needs to be

0:29:55.840,0:30:01.299
fixed and soon if you have a lot of them

0:29:59.320,0:30:02.769
some will short the positive thing you

0:30:01.299,0:30:04.809
can add a feature that the other ones

0:30:02.769,0:30:06.669
don't have but you also when you when

0:30:04.809,0:30:09.659
there's an update you have to to align

0:30:06.669,0:30:11.879
that with all yeah it will be confusing

0:30:09.659,0:30:14.289
perhaps they have a good solution for it

0:30:11.879,0:30:16.929
from my perspective it doesn't sound

0:30:14.289,0:30:21.369
like the right way to go for for a lot

0:30:16.929,0:30:23.519
of assets it make perhaps it makes sense

0:30:21.369,0:30:26.950
for one game for one developer of a game

0:30:23.519,0:30:32.499
yeah if you if you look back to see us

0:30:26.950,0:30:34.479
go I think that was the year 20 2013 or

0:30:32.499,0:30:36.820
if you look back even to the late 90s

0:30:34.479,0:30:39.009
like I mean this is how I think about

0:30:36.820,0:30:41.200
digital assets and and where blockchain

0:30:39.009,0:30:43.769
fits in do you think all the way back to

0:30:41.200,0:30:45.879
a Legend of Zelda I think that was like

0:30:43.769,0:30:50.559
1996 or something maybe you aren't even

0:30:45.879,0:30:53.169
alive yet like Legend of Zelda you could

0:30:50.559,0:30:55.690
get a sword or a hat or a shield or a

0:30:53.169,0:30:57.580
bow and arrow and it was unique and it

0:30:55.690,0:30:59.409
kind of felt like an object and you

0:30:57.580,0:31:01.239
could drop it and lose it in the game I

0:30:59.409,0:31:04.389
think if I remember correctly so like

0:31:01.239,0:31:06.879
that's already a digital asset although

0:31:04.389,0:31:10.840
it's confined to the game and then sort

0:31:06.879,0:31:13.809
of like the next level up is csgo 2013

0:31:10.840,0:31:16.149
where you can have skins and there's

0:31:13.809,0:31:18.190
some common language for the skins where

0:31:16.149,0:31:20.529
they exist in the game but they can also

0:31:18.190,0:31:23.409
be traded in the third-party marketplace

0:31:20.529,0:31:25.659
no blockchain needed but already you

0:31:23.409,0:31:27.039
have digital assets that can exist

0:31:25.659,0:31:31.119
outside the game just because you

0:31:27.039,0:31:33.669
created a common language what the

0:31:31.119,0:31:36.519
blockchain does is give to things like a

0:31:33.669,0:31:38.529
transparent ledger which so so it

0:31:36.519,0:31:40.749
creates this huge amount of transparency

0:31:38.529,0:31:44.440
which is great but more importantly it

0:31:40.749,0:31:47.049
gives a certainty of ownership and and

0:31:44.440,0:31:50.830
that was our like foundational principle

0:31:47.049,0:31:52.899
for for simple assets yeah I mean I

0:31:50.830,0:31:55.599
played the csgo

0:31:52.899,0:31:58.130
I play csgo and I participated in it but

0:31:55.599,0:31:59.570
the mark the trading of skins never

0:31:58.130,0:32:01.850
drew on me I didn't find it interesting

0:31:59.570,0:32:04.400
but World of Warcraft I played that a

0:32:01.850,0:32:07.880
lot in that marketplace in our world

0:32:04.400,0:32:09.830
that economy is huge at least it was

0:32:07.880,0:32:13.790
back in the days and I know that people

0:32:09.830,0:32:16.130
like Brock Pierce used to heaven he used

0:32:13.790,0:32:18.440
to trade from another MMORPG but I know

0:32:16.130,0:32:20.660
that he went into gold gold trading on

0:32:18.440,0:32:23.330
World of Warcraft as well and there was

0:32:20.660,0:32:25.520
there's farms in in China where people

0:32:23.330,0:32:28.460
they hire people to use farm gold on

0:32:25.520,0:32:32.300
yellow boar Croft read about that

0:32:28.460,0:32:35.660
amazing it's yeah it is amazing actually

0:32:32.300,0:32:37.970
it's a game and no transparency so this

0:32:35.660,0:32:40.160
Ark you say hey now we have more gold

0:32:37.970,0:32:41.810
here and or we have less and they can't

0:32:40.160,0:32:46.340
really do anything about it or they can

0:32:41.810,0:32:48.770
take your items away or they can yeah so

0:32:46.340,0:32:50.900
there's there's a lot of sense to have

0:32:48.770,0:32:53.300
this transparency and the blockchain

0:32:50.900,0:32:55.720
layers for these assets that people work

0:32:53.300,0:32:55.720
hard for

0:32:56.549,0:33:04.409
for sure so I know that you wanted to

0:33:01.049,0:33:06.330
talk about this because you watched my

0:33:04.409,0:33:08.339
last video with Jonah and he had some

0:33:06.330,0:33:10.080
comments about simple essence and I know

0:33:08.339,0:33:14.249
that you wanted to straight them out

0:33:10.080,0:33:14.989
from your perspective and and yeah let's

0:33:14.249,0:33:19.830
do it

0:33:14.989,0:33:24.719
yeah well it's a it's a nice compliment

0:33:19.830,0:33:26.459
that the atomic assets adopted adopted

0:33:24.719,0:33:29.129
sort of the same general structure that

0:33:26.459,0:33:31.259
simple assets did like not not the

0:33:29.129,0:33:34.579
individual contract but one contract and

0:33:31.259,0:33:37.950
sort of like our general architecture

0:33:34.579,0:33:40.049
it's also a nice complement it that they

0:33:37.950,0:33:42.209
use a lot of the same variable names

0:33:40.049,0:33:47.459
that we do we take a lot of pride in

0:33:42.209,0:33:49.619
naming our variables I was a little bit

0:33:47.459,0:33:51.269
shocked by the the video which I watched

0:33:49.619,0:33:53.070
just yesterday so I've been kind of

0:33:51.269,0:33:55.379
neutral towards atomic assets but I'm

0:33:53.070,0:33:57.869
afraid my impression has soured just a

0:33:55.379,0:34:01.229
little bit because I thought their

0:33:57.869,0:34:04.129
characterization of simple assets ranged

0:34:01.229,0:34:07.049
from uncharitable sort of broadly

0:34:04.129,0:34:09.089
characterizing our design decisions as

0:34:07.049,0:34:10.770
mistakes those are all design decisions

0:34:09.089,0:34:14.429
which I think we got right and I'll be

0:34:10.770,0:34:18.000
happy to defend to saying things that

0:34:14.429,0:34:20.460
are preposterous ly untrue so let me

0:34:18.000,0:34:24.119
take this opportunity to give Yona a

0:34:20.460,0:34:26.669
stern finger wagging ariana don't say

0:34:24.119,0:34:29.339
things that are not true about simple

0:34:26.669,0:34:33.569
assets and congratulations on the launch

0:34:29.339,0:34:35.339
and I'm very grateful to you Anders

0:34:33.569,0:34:37.409
because I think you're gonna you're

0:34:35.339,0:34:39.929
gonna be the great communicator here and

0:34:37.409,0:34:42.990
you're gonna give people a fair a fair

0:34:39.929,0:34:46.049
look at these asset standards because I

0:34:42.990,0:34:48.779
would hate for any artist or any any

0:34:46.049,0:34:51.869
game developer to choose their choose

0:34:48.779,0:34:55.470
the NFT standard based solely on his

0:34:51.869,0:34:59.069
comments the most egregious of which was

0:34:55.470,0:35:03.200
saying that simple assets has some like

0:34:59.069,0:35:07.289
some huge flaw saying that there's an

0:35:03.200,0:35:10.530
insurmountable exploit that can be

0:35:07.289,0:35:13.020
triggered just by just by

0:35:10.530,0:35:16.050
an asset to a store and then withdrawing

0:35:13.020,0:35:19.650
it repeatedly will inevitably exploit

0:35:16.050,0:35:22.110
your RAM that is preposterous tens of

0:35:19.650,0:35:25.110
thousands of simple assets have been

0:35:22.110,0:35:28.920
sent to and withdrawn from collectibles

0:35:25.110,0:35:32.250
i/o gpk market simple market call a book

0:35:28.920,0:35:35.280
like so my my challenge to Yana is just

0:35:32.250,0:35:37.140
articulate this exploit I think you're

0:35:35.280,0:35:39.690
completely wrong there is no such

0:35:37.140,0:35:41.850
exploit and and you're just you're just

0:35:39.690,0:35:45.480
overstepping your bounds in promoting

0:35:41.850,0:35:47.820
your own your own standard so that was

0:35:45.480,0:35:50.330
the big one that was the big ones saying

0:35:47.820,0:35:53.400
that there's some insurmountable exploit

0:35:50.330,0:35:56.100
so after I watched that yesterday we did

0:35:53.400,0:35:58.740
have to take a closer look at atomic

0:35:56.100,0:36:02.790
assets and I would like to offer offer

0:35:58.740,0:36:06.210
these these points for consideration I

0:36:02.790,0:36:09.300
think most of simple most of atomic

0:36:06.210,0:36:12.270
assets can be like a front end to simple

0:36:09.300,0:36:15.030
assets we impose very little structure

0:36:12.270,0:36:17.760
on your assets so if you wanted to for

0:36:15.030,0:36:20.820
example serialized data you could do

0:36:17.760,0:36:22.890
that if you wanted to like call

0:36:20.820,0:36:25.410
something a collection you could do that

0:36:22.890,0:36:27.270
or if you wanted to like officially

0:36:25.410,0:36:31.110
stamp something as limited-edition you

0:36:27.270,0:36:33.330
could do that too perhaps what we we had

0:36:31.110,0:36:35.430
crypto liens that wrong is we thought

0:36:33.330,0:36:38.130
game developers would be the pioneers

0:36:35.430,0:36:40.860
here so like we were we were sending

0:36:38.130,0:36:44.220
people to our readme but it turns out

0:36:40.860,0:36:46.350
that visual artists are the pioneers so

0:36:44.220,0:36:49.440
we did not we did not build the tools to

0:36:46.350,0:36:52.880
make simple assets very accessible but

0:36:49.440,0:36:55.680
like any any of that collection stuff

0:36:52.880,0:36:57.870
limited edition even serializing data

0:36:55.680,0:37:00.540
like it's all doable with just a

0:36:57.870,0:37:02.930
carefully designed interface for simple

0:37:00.540,0:37:02.930
assets

0:37:03.850,0:37:10.480
the RAM stuff okay so atomic assets

0:37:07.810,0:37:14.530
let's authors pay for Ram really cool

0:37:10.480,0:37:17.410
great job guys would have if it would

0:37:14.530,0:37:19.690
have been gentlemanly gentlemanly of you

0:37:17.410,0:37:22.000
to send us a pull request into our

0:37:19.690,0:37:23.860
github with the twenty five lines of

0:37:22.000,0:37:25.930
code needed for us to do that as well

0:37:23.860,0:37:28.660
but that's okay we'll write that

0:37:25.930,0:37:32.200
ourselves in fact it's it's already

0:37:28.660,0:37:34.240
working for four gpk cards and I know

0:37:32.200,0:37:38.020
you'll deploy that not long ago so I'll

0:37:34.240,0:37:41.650
get trace from now on it is the RAM is

0:37:38.020,0:37:43.930
already paid for them yeah and and it'll

0:37:41.650,0:37:46.570
be like that for all the authors except

0:37:43.930,0:37:48.010
we we will make it optional we will not

0:37:46.570,0:37:50.260
force authors to pay we'll make it

0:37:48.010,0:37:53.770
optional because I can certainly imagine

0:37:50.260,0:37:56.830
use cases for indie game developers or

0:37:53.770,0:38:00.790
maybe some game that that allows users

0:37:56.830,0:38:04.720
to create limitless NF tees maybe some

0:38:00.790,0:38:08.140
games will want users to pay so so will

0:38:04.720,0:38:11.590
will give will give users the option

0:38:08.140,0:38:15.010
uh I can go on I don't know I don't want

0:38:11.590,0:38:16.840
that to negative yeah it is I think I

0:38:15.010,0:38:21.400
think it's important and you yet you got

0:38:16.840,0:38:23.530
the space to to respond to those what

0:38:21.400,0:38:25.210
Jonah said accusations or whatever we

0:38:23.530,0:38:27.100
want to call them I think it's good that

0:38:25.210,0:38:29.320
you got the opportunity to actually say

0:38:27.100,0:38:31.120
from your perspective you have the

0:38:29.320,0:38:31.810
knowledge of simple assets where they

0:38:31.120,0:38:34.210
correct

0:38:31.810,0:38:38.080
what are you doing how have you fixed it

0:38:34.210,0:38:40.630
okay now the offer get can pay for all

0:38:38.080,0:38:43.090
the RAM we have solved this issue we had

0:38:40.630,0:38:45.160
some disconnect but we are back now

0:38:43.090,0:38:47.440
it was a short disconnect it's okay

0:38:45.160,0:38:53.500
perhaps he was DDoS now it was just a

0:38:47.440,0:38:56.620
line break and let me let me let me let

0:38:53.500,0:38:59.350
me continue actually I feel the need to

0:38:56.620,0:39:01.960
respond in kind because it has been

0:38:59.350,0:39:03.610
brought to my attention that your loss

0:39:01.960,0:39:07.500
has not just been saying these things

0:39:03.610,0:39:11.650
but writing them repeatedly in telegram

0:39:07.500,0:39:14.740
so okay so there's that the RAM in

0:39:11.650,0:39:17.620
atomic assets I am sorry to say and we

0:39:14.740,0:39:21.310
just discovered this this morning is not

0:39:17.620,0:39:23.590
as clean as they indicate if you send an

0:39:21.310,0:39:26.860
atomic asset to somebody who has never

0:39:23.590,0:39:29.830
held an atomic asset you the sender and

0:39:26.860,0:39:32.140
not the author will pay for a small

0:39:29.830,0:39:36.160
amount of RAM to create a table on that

0:39:32.140,0:39:39.880
user's scope it's not a large amount of

0:39:36.160,0:39:42.550
RAM but if you send to a lot of people

0:39:39.880,0:39:44.860
it can add up and it is RAM that's very

0:39:42.550,0:39:46.210
hard to free up because the recipient

0:39:44.860,0:39:49.090
would have to get rid of their atomic

0:39:46.210,0:39:51.840
asset and then run a little known and

0:39:49.090,0:39:54.880
little used command to close the table

0:39:51.840,0:39:57.340
these are not insurmountable problems I

0:39:54.880,0:39:59.290
the pink team they seem like really

0:39:57.340,0:40:02.080
sharp guys so I'm sure they'll they'll

0:39:59.290,0:40:06.250
they'll figure out a way but it's not as

0:40:02.080,0:40:08.470
clean as as they point out oh and by the

0:40:06.250,0:40:10.630
way if you want to save yourself a

0:40:08.470,0:40:12.910
little trouble just look at the simple

0:40:10.630,0:40:14.740
asset repository I think the most

0:40:12.910,0:40:17.580
parsimonious way to fix this problem

0:40:14.740,0:40:19.670
would be to just copy our offer claim

0:40:17.580,0:40:22.980
functionality

0:40:19.670,0:40:25.530
okay that's there and we have if we had

0:40:22.980,0:40:29.730
some effect will be like a drumstick

0:40:25.530,0:40:31.830
huge nobody is good and and what I like

0:40:29.730,0:40:33.390
here is okay you found this issue you

0:40:31.830,0:40:35.910
have this response because you feel

0:40:33.390,0:40:38.040
attacked by these comments that they're

0:40:35.910,0:40:41.190
saying that their their their solutions

0:40:38.040,0:40:43.230
is better than yours and and the bad

0:40:41.190,0:40:45.510
part about me I'm as far as you can get

0:40:43.230,0:40:47.430
from a maximalist of anything I'm not

0:40:45.510,0:40:49.500
the maximalist of any token or any

0:40:47.430,0:40:51.810
technology I just love everything that

0:40:49.500,0:40:55.980
that makes it interesting and and bring

0:40:51.810,0:40:59.100
bring a use cases so so I yeah the you

0:40:55.980,0:41:01.440
you are going to be a phenomenal referee

0:40:59.100,0:41:03.680
and you're gonna you're gonna help the

0:41:01.440,0:41:06.630
community make make important decisions

0:41:03.680,0:41:08.910
yeah I think that let me let me

0:41:06.630,0:41:12.210
articulate the neutral the sort of

0:41:08.910,0:41:14.190
neutral differences which which might be

0:41:12.210,0:41:20.040
like fertile ground for for future

0:41:14.190,0:41:23.550
content okay so so atomic asset has

0:41:20.040,0:41:26.040
built into it and exchange and the

0:41:23.550,0:41:28.280
ability to back back and of teas with

0:41:26.040,0:41:28.280
tokens

0:41:28.339,0:41:34.190
we have built into simple assets lending

0:41:31.460,0:41:36.230
and containerization alright I'm gonna

0:41:34.190,0:41:38.150
I'm gonna justify I'm going to justify

0:41:36.230,0:41:40.849
our decision which I think is the right

0:41:38.150,0:41:42.589
one and then I'm sure that as these

0:41:40.849,0:41:46.460
conversations keep going though they'll

0:41:42.589,0:41:49.010
justify their their decision so as far

0:41:46.460,0:41:51.800
as as far as exchanges go we didn't want

0:41:49.010,0:41:55.130
a privilege our exchange over any other

0:41:51.800,0:41:55.640
we want competition and boy do we have

0:41:55.130,0:41:58.250
it

0:41:55.640,0:42:00.050
the gpk market guys incredible community

0:41:58.250,0:42:02.960
management's incredible like

0:42:00.050,0:42:07.339
understanding of the of the sort of gpk

0:42:02.960,0:42:09.079
culture like 87% of the of the simple

0:42:07.339,0:42:10.760
asset market right now or something like

0:42:09.079,0:42:13.609
that I think I think your little

0:42:10.760,0:42:16.609
algorithm is is is nothing auctions

0:42:13.609,0:42:20.480
incorrectly but but we could thought

0:42:16.609,0:42:23.690
that's that's no big deal we also have

0:42:20.480,0:42:25.940
competition from Syed who-who maybe like

0:42:23.690,0:42:27.380
the single best well-rounded developer

0:42:25.940,0:42:29.210
in our community that guy can do

0:42:27.380,0:42:33.349
everything back in front and blockchain

0:42:29.210,0:42:35.210
and it doesn't Arianna telegram yeah so

0:42:33.349,0:42:37.790
okay so we didn't want a privileged

0:42:35.210,0:42:39.200
simple market although we do think it's

0:42:37.790,0:42:40.490
awesome so check out simple market

0:42:39.200,0:42:44.630
that's why we didn't include an exchange

0:42:40.490,0:42:46.960
for baking baking tokens or what they

0:42:44.630,0:42:50.569
call baking backing tokens with crypto

0:42:46.960,0:42:52.160
that is a simple third-party application

0:42:50.569,0:42:55.160
and it's it's on the roadmap that we

0:42:52.160,0:42:57.829
published in May we received some

0:42:55.160,0:43:01.430
criticism for making the lending of

0:42:57.829,0:43:03.680
simple assets part of the protocol and

0:43:01.430,0:43:06.140
I'll tell you why that needs to be part

0:43:03.680,0:43:08.480
of the protocol a contrary to

0:43:06.140,0:43:10.400
yesterday's interview it does not create

0:43:08.480,0:43:12.410
a whole bunch of edge cases which a

0:43:10.400,0:43:15.559
developer it needs to worry about it

0:43:12.410,0:43:18.200
creates one sort of case where you just

0:43:15.559,0:43:21.109
when you receive a token or an NFT a

0:43:18.200,0:43:23.270
game would just have to check and say is

0:43:21.109,0:43:25.190
this in the table of length tokens and

0:43:23.270,0:43:27.049
if it is just ignore it if you don't

0:43:25.190,0:43:28.579
want to deal with it and if you do want

0:43:27.049,0:43:30.829
to deal with it then you only have the

0:43:28.579,0:43:33.290
edge cases that you should have like

0:43:30.829,0:43:35.780
when does the expiration date when can

0:43:33.290,0:43:38.180
it be taken back the reason lending in

0:43:35.780,0:43:40.910
my in my view definitely needs to be

0:43:38.180,0:43:41.420
part of the NFT protocol is because we

0:43:40.910,0:43:44.150
want the

0:43:41.420,0:43:47.780
we wanted two things to be true we want

0:43:44.150,0:43:51.200
ownership to remain absolute and we want

0:43:47.780,0:43:51.859
the owner to be able to take back the

0:43:51.200,0:43:54.859
NFT

0:43:51.859,0:43:59.390
no matter where it is after the lending

0:43:54.859,0:44:01.609
period has expired so I don't see if

0:43:59.390,0:44:04.190
it's if lending is not part of the

0:44:01.609,0:44:07.309
protocol I don't see how the true owner

0:44:04.190,0:44:10.069
will ever take back the NFT after it has

0:44:07.309,0:44:12.170
expired I think the best you could do is

0:44:10.069,0:44:14.510
just have some deposit and like if you

0:44:12.170,0:44:16.430
can't get the NFT he'll get the deposit

0:44:14.510,0:44:18.230
or something like that which isn't a

0:44:16.430,0:44:21.140
horrible solution but I think the best

0:44:18.230,0:44:23.089
solution is allowing the true owner to

0:44:21.140,0:44:23.660
take back the NFT after the period has

0:44:23.089,0:44:26.619
expired

0:44:23.660,0:44:29.960
this is sort of over the horizon stuff

0:44:26.619,0:44:32.030
like NFC lending might be something that

0:44:29.960,0:44:34.190
our kids are like it might be a career

0:44:32.030,0:44:37.010
for our kids so right now we're

0:44:34.190,0:44:39.049
speculating on how it might look you

0:44:37.010,0:44:40.880
know in the future but that that was our

0:44:39.049,0:44:42.980
thinking that was why we put it in the

0:44:40.880,0:44:45.349
protocol yeah I don't think that the

0:44:42.980,0:44:47.750
blizzard anticipated gold mining farms

0:44:45.349,0:44:49.250
in China so yeah we don't know where

0:44:47.750,0:44:52.280
this is taking us so it's very

0:44:49.250,0:44:53.930
interesting and I think it's good

0:44:52.280,0:44:56.480
comments and that you can get you can

0:44:53.930,0:44:59.059
clear it out and and I also want to want

0:44:56.480,0:45:01.490
to say that you want to carry out these

0:44:59.059,0:45:03.559
things but but we're not doing this with

0:45:01.490,0:45:05.089
bad intention it yes that there were

0:45:03.559,0:45:07.960
there were some statements and they had

0:45:05.089,0:45:10.849
to be cleared out so it's very very nice

0:45:07.960,0:45:12.770
competition is good I think well we can

0:45:10.849,0:45:15.740
be what we can be certain of is that the

0:45:12.770,0:45:18.530
community will be well served yeah I

0:45:15.740,0:45:20.869
think so too because because recently

0:45:18.530,0:45:23.119
you put out the crater for NF TS as well

0:45:20.869,0:45:24.950
you have it in bit beta and I just went

0:45:23.119,0:45:26.839
in there today and I've seen it I saw it

0:45:24.950,0:45:28.819
the first day it launched I tested and I

0:45:26.839,0:45:32.000
created an asset with it we're fine was

0:45:28.819,0:45:35.690
releasing yeah for me it was easy I may

0:45:32.000,0:45:38.359
be more used to same player out

0:45:35.690,0:45:40.760
interfaces than some of the creators

0:45:38.359,0:45:45.230
that we see out there and today it

0:45:40.760,0:45:47.150
looked way better so yeah today well by

0:45:45.230,0:45:49.339
the time you publish this video we're

0:45:47.150,0:45:50.960
gonna get wax cloud wallet working with

0:45:49.339,0:45:54.680
it it's embarrassing that we

0:45:50.960,0:45:57.200
have that and we're gonna shift our

0:45:54.680,0:45:59.780
focus to making a lot of tools for

0:45:57.200,0:46:02.870
artists I think that was a mistake on

0:45:59.780,0:46:04.910
our part we thought we would be firstly

0:46:02.870,0:46:06.650
serving game developers and we do have a

0:46:04.910,0:46:09.290
number of games being built with simple

0:46:06.650,0:46:12.470
assets but it seems like there's a lot

0:46:09.290,0:46:15.440
of energy coming from artists and to to

0:46:12.470,0:46:18.380
all of the artists who I in the patio I

0:46:15.440,0:46:20.270
sent to a github repository I want to

0:46:18.380,0:46:22.910
apologize you should never send an

0:46:20.270,0:46:25.190
artist to a github repository and tell

0:46:22.910,0:46:27.590
them to read the readme it's that's a

0:46:25.190,0:46:31.420
horrible thing to do so Giselle

0:46:27.590,0:46:33.950
Kirti Pedro a wizard all of you I

0:46:31.420,0:46:36.320
apologize for doing that we're gonna

0:46:33.950,0:46:39.320
build we're gonna build graphical user

0:46:36.320,0:46:41.810
interfaces to make simple assets easily

0:46:39.320,0:46:45.320
accessible yeah that's very good because

0:46:41.810,0:46:48.140
when you're new okay well you don't have

0:46:45.320,0:46:52.190
experience with reading code github is

0:46:48.140,0:46:54.410
programming it's very complicated

0:46:52.190,0:46:55.940
because you don't understand where to

0:46:54.410,0:46:58.760
find things you don't understand where

0:46:55.940,0:47:01.490
to read I mean someone that don't they

0:46:58.760,0:47:04.040
don't now now if you go to get up the

0:47:01.490,0:47:05.810
route to your it yesterday it's just a

0:47:04.040,0:47:07.400
document it's like a block text so it's

0:47:05.810,0:47:09.560
not that difficult but there's a lot of

0:47:07.400,0:47:11.900
tables and words and things but if you

0:47:09.560,0:47:14.720
read a JSON file which basically is just

0:47:11.900,0:47:17.030
symbols and text is very very simple to

0:47:14.720,0:47:20.630
read that's programming for most users

0:47:17.030,0:47:23.870
yes yeah it's it's nonsense they can't

0:47:20.630,0:47:26.600
make make sense of the text and for for

0:47:23.870,0:47:28.670
anyone that is used to look at symbols

0:47:26.600,0:47:30.260
and code it's just as easy to read that

0:47:28.670,0:47:33.920
especially if you open it in Firefox

0:47:30.260,0:47:36.410
that make this nice graphics of it so

0:47:33.920,0:47:37.670
yeah I think it's the good way to go the

0:47:36.410,0:47:39.830
right way to go to make the interface

0:47:37.670,0:47:42.140
simple and use and I think that's

0:47:39.830,0:47:43.700
something atomic hub in atomic acid did

0:47:42.140,0:47:46.400
correctly now with the launch

0:47:43.700,0:47:50.330
it's very simple to go in and to launch

0:47:46.400,0:47:52.910
an asset and very simple you just go in

0:47:50.330,0:47:56.060
you click upload and it's uploaded to it

0:47:52.910,0:47:58.160
to an IP FS node and everything pretty

0:47:56.060,0:48:00.350
much works out of the gate with there

0:47:58.160,0:48:02.720
was some some aspect okay what is a

0:48:00.350,0:48:04.310
schema what is a collection where is a

0:48:02.720,0:48:04.740
template you need to understand these

0:48:04.310,0:48:06.600
things

0:48:04.740,0:48:08.700
you had to have a description to

0:48:06.600,0:48:10.470
understand aspects but when you did that

0:48:08.700,0:48:11.820
it was pretty simple and I'm really

0:48:10.470,0:48:14.250
happy to hear that you're working on

0:48:11.820,0:48:17.010
towards the same direction to help the

0:48:14.250,0:48:18.750
creators the designers to launch their

0:48:17.010,0:48:20.730
stuff on on the blockchain because I

0:48:18.750,0:48:24.119
think it's the future I mentioned this

0:48:20.730,0:48:28.650
in in the telegram today I think that we

0:48:24.119,0:48:30.840
we have this content creation this

0:48:28.650,0:48:33.690
economy in the world with users on

0:48:30.840,0:48:35.940
Twitch on YouTube they go and podcast

0:48:33.690,0:48:38.420
they go and they pay they crater with

0:48:35.940,0:48:40.500
fees they pay them on patreon or

0:48:38.420,0:48:42.570
subscribe and they get some extra

0:48:40.500,0:48:46.560
content and things what they all should

0:48:42.570,0:48:48.930
get is an MFT and that creator and that

0:48:46.560,0:48:51.240
then ft is sold by the crater the crater

0:48:48.930,0:48:54.990
get the money and the user can sell that

0:48:51.240,0:48:56.790
later as memorabilia I mean it

0:48:54.990,0:48:58.920
speculates it's how it should be done

0:48:56.790,0:49:00.510
you should you should just add an NF T

0:48:58.920,0:49:01.830
because then you have something you get

0:49:00.510,0:49:04.200
something if you don't want to sell it

0:49:01.830,0:49:05.940
after a while you have these old ones or

0:49:04.200,0:49:08.430
look I was here from the beginning I

0:49:05.940,0:49:10.380
have this cool one and instantly if this

0:49:08.430,0:49:12.750
if this goes up imagine having your

0:49:10.380,0:49:15.810
Rogen's he has an NF T the first episode

0:49:12.750,0:49:18.600
some users get it today he signs 100

0:49:15.810,0:49:20.369
million dollar contract with Spotify you

0:49:18.600,0:49:22.950
can send this and of T probably for more

0:49:20.369,0:49:25.470
than you paid for it from the start yeah

0:49:22.950,0:49:27.330
those new use cases like that's what's

0:49:25.470,0:49:29.369
most exciting like when you see people

0:49:27.330,0:49:31.890
start changing their behaviors because

0:49:29.369,0:49:34.710
new things are possible what I'm looking

0:49:31.890,0:49:36.810
forward to seeing is two things I want

0:49:34.710,0:49:40.530
to see the first game or the first bunch

0:49:36.810,0:49:43.590
of games sharing NF T's yeah so you have

0:49:40.530,0:49:45.300
you have one supply of stuff and then

0:49:43.590,0:49:47.130
you can take it out of one game and into

0:49:45.300,0:49:50.130
another because a bunch of indie game

0:49:47.130,0:49:53.040
developers are collaborating yeah

0:49:50.130,0:49:55.890
another thing I want to see and man we

0:49:53.040,0:49:59.160
were actually we're actually helping a

0:49:55.890,0:50:01.020
non blockchain company come to wax

0:49:59.160,0:50:02.790
although they're they're a little stuck

0:50:01.020,0:50:05.400
right now they have some IP issues to

0:50:02.790,0:50:08.430
deal with but we were we're in the

0:50:05.400,0:50:11.460
process of helping them tokenize items

0:50:08.430,0:50:13.140
in an on blockchain application so they

0:50:11.460,0:50:16.050
have a little game that you have on

0:50:13.140,0:50:18.830
android or iOS and they're just gonna

0:50:16.050,0:50:21.980
put stuff in the game into escrow

0:50:18.830,0:50:23.480
and and then when they goes into escrow

0:50:21.980,0:50:25.670
it generates a coup pond and that

0:50:23.480,0:50:28.250
coupons an NFT the coupon can circulate

0:50:25.670,0:50:31.100
and then if somebody cashes in the

0:50:28.250,0:50:32.870
coupon they're notified and the they get

0:50:31.100,0:50:35.690
to pull the item out of escrow in their

0:50:32.870,0:50:37.580
game and and give it to a user so that's

0:50:35.690,0:50:40.190
sort of like a really sort of arm's

0:50:37.580,0:50:43.250
distance way that an on blockchain game

0:50:40.190,0:50:45.590
can integrate with with blockchain know

0:50:43.250,0:50:46.900
that we're building some yeah we're

0:50:45.590,0:50:49.730
building some general-purpose

0:50:46.900,0:50:54.370
infrastructure that anybody will be able

0:50:49.730,0:50:56.870
to use so I'm pretty excited about that

0:50:54.370,0:50:59.990
hey it sounds very exciting and I think

0:50:56.870,0:51:01.790
that for a lot of game what makes sense

0:50:59.990,0:51:04.130
is to use the blocks in a correct way

0:51:01.790,0:51:05.930
and they like if we ask back two years

0:51:04.130,0:51:07.280
ago they wanted to launch everything on

0:51:05.930,0:51:09.020
Shane and I don't think that is the

0:51:07.280,0:51:10.510
correct way you want to use the shame

0:51:09.020,0:51:13.730
for what it does best

0:51:10.510,0:51:15.950
I'll pass I'll pass your advice on to

0:51:13.730,0:51:19.220
the prospectors guys yeah

0:51:15.950,0:51:22.370
which is like the most insanely on chain

0:51:19.220,0:51:24.410
game ever yeah it is and I've actually

0:51:22.370,0:51:27.170
think that some games could work on

0:51:24.410,0:51:29.660
Shane when it's turn-based and any and

0:51:27.170,0:51:31.670
it should take time but the user

0:51:29.660,0:51:34.880
experience will never be as good as if

0:51:31.670,0:51:36.620
it's not yeah although I am a fan of

0:51:34.880,0:51:38.420
prospectors I think they've done great

0:51:36.620,0:51:40.160
work and and I'm looking forward to a

0:51:38.420,0:51:43.910
relaunch that I think is coming in a

0:51:40.160,0:51:46.640
couple of months yeah and I'm all up for

0:51:43.910,0:51:48.860
a lot of things that like I mean I'm

0:51:46.640,0:51:51.500
collecting GP case now I have and I have

0:51:48.860,0:51:54.020
like almost 80 fat Matt's it's my it's

0:51:51.500,0:51:57.140
my spirit animal I have all of them and

0:51:54.020,0:51:59.480
I really don't understand collecting

0:51:57.140,0:52:01.310
anything it's like it doesn't make sense

0:51:59.480,0:52:02.930
for me but still here I have I have a

0:52:01.310,0:52:03.380
few and I feel it I found it really

0:52:02.930,0:52:06.740
funny

0:52:03.380,0:52:10.910
I just dropped into gpk chat from now

0:52:06.740,0:52:13.370
and then I just drop a guy a picture or

0:52:10.910,0:52:14.840
a gift or something of fat matinee as go

0:52:13.370,0:52:18.170
out of there and I just keep doing that

0:52:14.840,0:52:21.020
and I ask fine finally fun yeah

0:52:18.170,0:52:23.990
so yeah yeah it's very interesting and I

0:52:21.020,0:52:25.430
think that this ecosystem how to use the

0:52:23.990,0:52:30.350
games and how the abduction will be used

0:52:25.430,0:52:33.260
is very fun for sure like that the tower

0:52:30.350,0:52:35.900
defense that's coming the HTML HTML 5

0:52:33.260,0:52:37.660
game that's coming that that runs off

0:52:35.900,0:52:40.940
Shane but wants to incorporate

0:52:37.660,0:52:43.100
leaderboards and tournaments on Shane so

0:52:40.940,0:52:44.330
they can actually monetize the game on

0:52:43.100,0:52:46.460
Shane but they can have the user

0:52:44.330,0:52:49.100
experience that is good for a phone or a

0:52:46.460,0:52:53.050
desktop off Shane so I think that's very

0:52:49.100,0:52:57.530
cool if they manage to deliver on this

0:52:53.050,0:53:00.110
that's very good one question I want to

0:52:57.530,0:53:02.450
ask you because you're you you are one

0:53:00.110,0:53:04.910
of the right guys to answer this what is

0:53:02.450,0:53:08.540
the measure the top transactions per

0:53:04.910,0:53:12.920
second result we have seen on ASIO so

0:53:08.540,0:53:16.490
far oh I hate you spot now can you

0:53:12.920,0:53:18.910
answer to the to the X I know I the

0:53:16.490,0:53:21.980
closest like it yet is I think

0:53:18.910,0:53:25.840
9400 something I couldn't I think I can

0:53:21.980,0:53:29.210
give you an exact one it's 9656 because

0:53:25.840,0:53:31.250
someone made some some NF T's for it to

0:53:29.210,0:53:34.370
a few days ago so I know I know it is

0:53:31.250,0:53:36.410
for sure is that right when we did the

0:53:34.370,0:53:38.450
stress testing in the jungle we had to

0:53:36.410,0:53:41.660
change some parameters to get it up that

0:53:38.450,0:53:43.820
high yeah and and this number the 9000

0:53:41.660,0:53:45.770
number it's a lot of tweak settings to

0:53:43.820,0:53:49.040
get it it would probably not reach the

0:53:45.770,0:53:53.600
same the same amount it in in February

0:53:49.040,0:53:56.440
February of this year we reached 9656

0:53:53.600,0:53:56.440
yeah

0:53:57.590,0:54:03.050
and that that number may not happen on

0:54:00.380,0:54:05.810
one of the active maintenance be crazy

0:54:03.050,0:54:08.030
you need a lot of you need a lot of

0:54:05.810,0:54:11.120
things to go your way to reach these

0:54:08.030,0:54:14.030
numbers but it's still a phone number if

0:54:11.120,0:54:17.420
we can't count the the the failed

0:54:14.030,0:54:19.310
transaction we get a way higher number

0:54:17.420,0:54:21.560
the difference yeah you see you could do

0:54:19.310,0:54:23.930
it in sort of a not completely honest

0:54:21.560,0:54:26.000
way and then get over the big 10,000

0:54:23.930,0:54:27.590
landmark but I don't know if we want to

0:54:26.000,0:54:29.570
do that no not really

0:54:27.590,0:54:32.480
I don't think so it's it's it's mostly

0:54:29.570,0:54:34.580
fun for us the the technique technical

0:54:32.480,0:54:38.020
guys but we can see that the potential

0:54:34.580,0:54:42.140
is there to increase this further so

0:54:38.020,0:54:44.870
it's very interesting so you're building

0:54:42.140,0:54:47.060
the the color box game that is let's

0:54:44.870,0:54:49.100
take that again what what is what is

0:54:47.060,0:54:51.080
coming and you said that you can

0:54:49.100,0:54:55.610
actually get rewarded in cryptocurrency

0:54:51.080,0:54:58.370
what does that mean we okay yeah we made

0:54:55.610,0:55:02.420
a new in-game currency called K bucks

0:54:58.370,0:55:08.150
and right now right now all you can do

0:55:02.420,0:55:10.160
is earn K bucks yeah and you you earned

0:55:08.150,0:55:12.860
them by sending your first breeding

0:55:10.160,0:55:15.590
collar box then sending your collar box

0:55:12.860,0:55:17.420
on adventures the wind prizes but be

0:55:15.590,0:55:19.760
careful your your color book may get

0:55:17.420,0:55:24.580
killed and get killed

0:55:19.760,0:55:28.220
is it gone it's not gone but it's dead

0:55:24.580,0:55:31.220
later you may be able to pay some K

0:55:28.220,0:55:32.780
bucks to resurrect your color box so

0:55:31.220,0:55:35.540
that would probably be a first use case

0:55:32.780,0:55:38.000
to use the money in game but for now

0:55:35.540,0:55:39.530
we're just showing a bounty program so

0:55:38.000,0:55:42.080
you send them on adventures you collect

0:55:39.530,0:55:44.050
prizes and periodically the bounty

0:55:42.080,0:55:46.640
changes so different prizes are

0:55:44.050,0:55:48.020
requested and if you have them you send

0:55:46.640,0:55:50.570
them in exchange for K bucks

0:55:48.020,0:55:54.050
call up the kolobok universe is gonna

0:55:50.570,0:55:56.270
grow very slowly and very steadily but

0:55:54.050,0:55:58.640
it's sort of like an outlet for our our

0:55:56.270,0:56:00.380
creativity sometimes you need to work on

0:55:58.640,0:56:03.320
hard problems sometimes you need to work

0:56:00.380,0:56:05.210
on an unfunded gives us gives us a

0:56:03.320,0:56:07.130
little balance yeah for sure

0:56:05.210,0:56:08.540
that's very nice so that so that's

0:56:07.130,0:56:10.310
called a balk actually do have a number

0:56:08.540,0:56:11.210
of announcements if I if I could take

0:56:10.310,0:56:13.549
advantage of

0:56:11.210,0:56:17.599
let's do it of the platform you've given

0:56:13.549,0:56:20.839
me a simple market just in time for the

0:56:17.599,0:56:23.589
gpk the next version or the next series

0:56:20.839,0:56:26.150
launching we will finally have filters

0:56:23.589,0:56:29.239
following in the footsteps of Sayid and

0:56:26.150,0:56:33.289
and gpk market let me just say you guys

0:56:29.239,0:56:35.960
kicked our butts congratulations to

0:56:33.289,0:56:38.869
collectibles to gpk market you you

0:56:35.960,0:56:41.809
kicked our butts we had to move from

0:56:38.869,0:56:44.239
from MongoDB to elasticsearch it took

0:56:41.809,0:56:47.029
like 20 times longer than we had hoped

0:56:44.239,0:56:49.460
but we will have those filters working

0:56:47.029,0:56:52.940
so that'll be fun we will have a few

0:56:49.460,0:56:55.369
pages of premium sellers so a few of our

0:56:52.940,0:56:57.829
active community members will be able to

0:56:55.369,0:57:00.229
have their own like cellar pages on

0:56:57.829,0:57:04.609
simple markets that's very cool

0:57:00.229,0:57:06.109
yep and then and then simple assets

0:57:04.609,0:57:10.400
we'll talk about simple assets the

0:57:06.109,0:57:13.460
standard memory stuff will be will be

0:57:10.400,0:57:15.349
deployed soon so that any author can so

0:57:13.460,0:57:17.509
optionally authors can choose whether

0:57:15.349,0:57:20.930
they pay for transfers or or they have

0:57:17.509,0:57:25.009
users paper transfers by the time this

0:57:20.930,0:57:27.529
airs simple assets dot IO new and

0:57:25.009,0:57:29.779
improved simple assets IO has a

0:57:27.529,0:57:32.690
beautiful landing page check it out it's

0:57:29.779,0:57:34.249
it has documentation that's that's good

0:57:32.690,0:57:36.229
and gonna get a lot better all the

0:57:34.249,0:57:38.630
questions we get asked we're gonna add

0:57:36.229,0:57:42.200
pages to that documentation and you can

0:57:38.630,0:57:44.690
also use simple assets that io to link

0:57:42.200,0:57:46.509
to the wax creator which we're building

0:57:44.690,0:57:51.049
and which we're going to improve upon

0:57:46.509,0:57:54.079
and just a general announcement we

0:57:51.049,0:57:55.670
didn't build tools for artists so we

0:57:54.079,0:58:00.140
were gonna do that we're gonna do that

0:57:55.670,0:58:02.630
next that's awesome I love I yeah this

0:58:00.140,0:58:06.469
this is a lot of content for from a get

0:58:02.630,0:58:08.509
go Pam I think we need we need okay when

0:58:06.469,0:58:10.219
you see this this is a clip we have cut

0:58:08.509,0:58:12.319
this out just to put out the video about

0:58:10.219,0:58:15.950
all these announcements that are coming

0:58:12.319,0:58:17.329
so that's that's very good very exciting

0:58:15.950,0:58:19.219
stuff and indeed

0:58:17.329,0:58:21.739
I think you're doing a good job with

0:58:19.219,0:58:24.410
these improvements and and man if we go

0:58:21.739,0:58:26.180
back a few months the simple market had

0:58:24.410,0:58:29.630
a few transactions here and there and

0:58:26.180,0:58:31.940
then May 12 and we have a few hundred

0:58:29.630,0:58:38.269
thousand wax being transferred like this

0:58:31.940,0:58:40.279
and use yes sirs there was a lot of UI I

0:58:38.269,0:58:42.680
know that you got a lot of feedback from

0:58:40.279,0:58:45.799
a lot of people in no time these for

0:58:42.680,0:58:47.660
this first few days there it was fun it

0:58:45.799,0:58:49.999
helps a lot when you when you love what

0:58:47.660,0:58:54.469
you do and and I'm in that fortunate

0:58:49.999,0:58:56.509
situation yeah that's that very very fun

0:58:54.469,0:58:58.700
very good I'm very excited about all

0:58:56.509,0:59:00.799
these things and and for me personally I

0:58:58.700,0:59:05.229
love to see what you will bring for the

0:59:00.799,0:59:08.390
creators and yeah I love it

0:59:05.229,0:59:10.069
yeah I don't know I have one more

0:59:08.390,0:59:12.009
question we asked had these

0:59:10.069,0:59:16.249
announcements that you're gonna drop now

0:59:12.009,0:59:17.660
what's coming beyond that what's your

0:59:16.249,0:59:19.910
dream what's your vision where are we

0:59:17.660,0:59:24.650
going with the with everything crypto

0:59:19.910,0:59:26.119
lions are doing ah I could talk for a

0:59:24.650,0:59:27.769
long time I don't know if Yuri I think

0:59:26.119,0:59:32.239
at this point we need to wind down this

0:59:27.769,0:59:35.299
yes let's take a short one yeah well I

0:59:32.239,0:59:37.249
want to make it not just possible but

0:59:35.299,0:59:41.150
easy for people to tokenize non

0:59:37.249,0:59:42.680
blockchain stuff and man I really want

0:59:41.150,0:59:46.309
to build Darrow I've been talking about

0:59:42.680,0:59:50.150
Darrow since 2018 it's sort of a on

0:59:46.309,0:59:53.299
chain justice system and it'll really

0:59:50.150,0:59:55.249
enable a lot more like it'll you could

0:59:53.299,0:59:58.459
just create a promise a promise that

0:59:55.249,1:00:01.009
people can sue for if you break it so so

0:59:58.459,1:00:03.339
a lot longer term it's those two things

1:00:01.009,1:00:05.900
tokenizing non blockchain stuff and

1:00:03.339,1:00:08.239
building a legal system that all the

1:00:05.900,1:00:11.059
marketplaces can take advantage of it'll

1:00:08.239,1:00:14.749
it'll it'll help the whole trust thing

1:00:11.059,1:00:17.660
even more yeah that's very good that's

1:00:14.749,1:00:19.789
very good so we have actual contracts

1:00:17.660,1:00:22.960
that works on the blockchain later not

1:00:19.789,1:00:25.450
just the smart contracts for the techies

1:00:22.960,1:00:27.550
so that's very nice thank you for your

1:00:25.450,1:00:29.710
time aroma and I'm sure that a lot of

1:00:27.550,1:00:31.930
people will appreciate this and we have

1:00:29.710,1:00:33.910
a lot of content that we need to cut out

1:00:31.930,1:00:36.760
from this and make a few short videos

1:00:33.910,1:00:39.070
not just one long we have a few ones so

1:00:36.760,1:00:41.560
that's very exciting very fun and thank

1:00:39.070,1:00:43.950
you so much for your time my pleasure

1:00:41.560,1:00:43.950
thank you

1:00:44.710,1:00:49.389
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